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SDOS's avatar

Hi Zeljko,

Nice work, also enjoyed your framework surrounding oysters and horses!

New to BUR which I found thanks to you, but applying the mental model of expected value (EV in this post, as opposed to the usual Enterprise Value) here could be useful. We know the size of claim to BUR (6.2bn usd) and we know the number of outstanding shares (223.56mm). So let's play around!

Assume we have three scenarios:

1 - full recovery and payment, lets say its probability: p=10%

2 - partial recovery and payment, p=30%

3 - no recovery, no payment, p=60%

Assume that any payment they receive have a probability distribution

after 1yr, p=10%

after 2 yrs, p=12.5%

after 3 yrs, p=15%

after 4 yrs, p=17.5%

after 5 yrs, p=20%

after 10yrs, p=25%

I personally use a 25% hurdle/discount rate, so have applied it here:

EV for the claim is +1.085bnusd ($4.85/share - adding the full EV would move the stock +37%)

Discounted EV is +435musd ($1.95/share- adding the full DEV would move the stock +57%)

*this is without factoring in additional costs they may have in enforcement/legal

** I took the probabilities OMA (Out of My Ass)

So basically, the EV of the YPF claim = net debt.

Probably decent risk reward, good spot!

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Congrats on the new venture! I've been following you on twitter and I'm really excited about what's coming up here.

The idea looks really interesting in the current market environment where I find shortage of good counter-cyclical investments. This can be one to be used to add on weakness or when other cyclical parts of the portfolio over-perform.

What's your thought process on positioning in the idea given the possibility of lumpy/disapointing earnings?

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